And the Spirit & the bride say, come.... Reveaaltion 22:17

And the Spirit & the bride say, come.... Reveaaltion 22:17
And the Spirit & the bride say, come...Revelation 22:17 - May We One Day Bow Down In The DUST At HIS FEET ...... {click on blog TITLE at top to refresh page}---QUESTION: ...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? LUKE 18:8

Thursday, March 17, 2016

Creation Moment 3/18/2016 - In the BEGINNING (Mathematical Evidence for one)

In the beginning
God created....
Genesis 1:1
"The evidence from science points to a beginning for the universe. Some atheists, understanding the possible theological implications of a beginning, prefer to set aside science and assert that the past is infinite either in terms of the number of years this universe has existed, or in terms of a fantasized infinite series of universes in a multiverse.

Sean Carroll, in a formal debate with William Lane Craig, suggested that all we have to do is to build
a mathematical model of an eternal universe where "time runs from minus infinity to plus infinity."

More recently, theoretical physicists Ahmed Farag Ali and Saurya Das have proposed yet another mathematical model of a universe with an infinite past..... but in the real, physical world, it is impossible to "count down" an infinite number of actual years, one at a time, from minus infinity to the present.

What Does an "Infinite Past" Mean?
In the real world, an infinite past means that if you were to set the current year as t = 0 and count back into the past, there would never be an end to your counting, for there is no year in the past that was the "beginning."
No matter how long you counted, you would still have an infinite number of years ahead of you to count and, if you were to look back at the set of years you have already counted, it would always be finite.
An imaginary past history that is composed of an infinite number of years that have elapsed one at a time can be described as a countably infinite set.
How many members are in a set that contains a countably infinite number of years? Well, it cannot be described by any particular integer, for any number you picked would always be finite. Therefore, the number of members in a countably infinite set of years is represented by the symbol0 (pronounced "aleph-null").

Why the Age of the Universe Cannot Be Infinite
An interesting property of a countably infinite set of years containing 0 members is:
0 - any finite set of years = ℵ0.
Why is this a problem for an infinite past?
Well, consider Carroll's suggestion that all we need for an infinite past is for time to elapse from "minus infinity." But his suggestion means that past history would have had to "count through" a countably infinite set of years with0 members.
Given the above-mentioned property, however, no matter how many members of that set tick by, there will always still be 0 years to go before it arrives at the present. In other words, if the past is infinite, actual history would never, ever make any progress at all in getting closer to the present, or any other arbitrary point in time. There would always be 0 years to go before any historical event could occur.

Yet here we are. The only way this can be possible is if the past is not actually composed of 0 years. The set of years in the past is finite (as opposed to infinite) and there was a beginning, as science also seems to indicate.

Or as mathematician George Ellis and physicist Joe Silk, in an article in Nature on defending the integrity of physics, wrote:
In our view, cosmologists should heed mathematician David Hilbert's warning: although infinity is needed to complete mathematics, it occurs nowhere in the physical Universe."

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