And the Spirit & the bride say, come.... Reveaaltion 22:17

And the Spirit & the bride say, come.... Reveaaltion 22:17
And the Spirit & the bride say, come...Revelation 22:17 - May We One Day Bow Down In The DUST At HIS FEET ...... {click on blog TITLE at top to refresh page}---QUESTION: ...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? LUKE 18:8

Friday, December 5, 2025

Hospital of the Cross

Ask, and it shall be given you. 
Matthew 7:7

"He has built a St. Cross Hospital, so that whenever a sinner is hungry, he has but to knock and have his wants supplied. 
Nay, He has done better; He has attached to this Hospital of the Cross a bath; and whenever a soul is black and filthy, it has but to go there and be washed
No sinner ever went into it and found that it could
 not wash away his stains. 
Sins which were scarlet and crimson have all disappeared,
 and the sinner has been whiter than snow.
As if this were not enough, there is attached to this Hospital of the Cross a wardrobe, and a sinner making application simply as a sinner, may be clothed from head to foot.

If all these things are to be had by merely knocking at mercy's door, O my soul, knock hard this morning, and ask large things of thy generous Lord. 

Leave not the throne of grace till all thy wants have been spread before the Lord, and until by faith thou hast a comfortable prospect that they shall be all supplied. No bashfulness need retard when Jesus invites." 
Charles Spurgeon

Creation Moment 12/6/2025 - The unproven and unscientific foundation of Evolution

For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20

"Our entire intellectual culture is built on the unproven and unscientific foundation (assumption) of evolution
Evolution in turn rests on three basic claims:
--Life arose from chemicals by blind random processes.
--The raw material for evolution is random mutations. (Random mutations supply the necessary variation.)
--Natural selection propels the evolution of all organisms by selecting mutations that provide a survival advantage for the organism. Although natural selection, Darwin’s own proposed mechanism, may be able to explain the conservation and fine-tuning of existing traits, it cannot account for what is commonly called macroevolution. The postulated source of evolutionary variation is mutations, but since >99 % of mutations are neutral or harmful, each generation accumulates more genetic damage than it removes—an unsustainable trend that modern genomics confirms.

*Another major problem for evolution is that life was designed to not evolve—to resist evolutionary change rather than to embrace it.

The main proposed source of genetic variety is mutations, which provide genetic variety that, in turn, allows improved survivability.
Yet cells invest enormous resources in preventing and correcting precisely those mutations. In humans alone, more than a dozen highly sophisticated DNA-repair pathways—mismatch repair, base-excision repair, nucleotide-excision repair, homologous recombination, non-homologous end-joining, etc.—detect and correct well over 99.9 % of the spontaneous base changes and damage events that occur every cell cycle." 
CEH

Thursday, December 4, 2025

SDA Issues: Biblical Proof for our Interpretation of Daniel 8:14

"The “mystery of God” is to be finished (Revelation 10:7), or as it is
put in the book of Daniel, there is to be…

Daniel 9
24
…an end of sin, and bringing in everlasting righteousness.
The longest time prophecy in the Bible, the 2300 days (years) of Daniel 8:14, pointed to time when the work began in heaven whereby Christ would prepare His people for His kingdom and soon return." J.N. Andrews

Papal Notes - Pope Leo Calls for Full Communion Among All Believers

"In his recent appeal,
Pope Leo XVI calls for full communion
among all religions and for the rejection of all forms of “fundamentalism.” 
At first glance, this may sound like a simple invitation to global unity—but it isn’t. His own words make it clear that there will be no room for those who stand firmly on Scripture or who proclaim the distinct end-time warnings of Revelation 13 and 14.
Vatican released the following statement from Pope Leo XIV:
The more we are reconciled, the more we Christians can bear credible witness to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is a proclamation of hope for all. Moreover, it is a message of peace and universal fraternity that transcends the boundaries of our communities and nations.”
There is a universal fraternity of men and women regardless of ethnicity, nationality, religion or personal perspectives.”
Furthermore, we must strongly reject the use of religion for justifying war, violence, or any form of fundamentalism or fanaticism. Instead, the paths to follow are those of fraternal encounter, dialogue and cooperation.”
The Vatican defines unity in terms of universal fraternity, not in terms of Biblical truth.
The “fraternityPope Leo XIV promotes is not grounded in the commandments of God or in the faith of Jesus (Revelation 14:12), but in the deliberate setting aside of doctrinal differences so Christianity can speak with a single, ecumenical voice. " AdventMessenger

Creation Moment 12/5/2025 - Designed Diversity Model

And Adam called his wife's name Eve
because she was the mother of all living. 
Genesis 3:20

"The attack on the historicity of Adam and Eve began long ago (VanDoodewaard 2015; Carter 2015) and has increasingly been coming from within the church (Venema and McKnight 2017; Carter 2017). 
Many theistic evolutionists are aggressively advancing the argument
that Adam and Eve never existed, and so they must be either mythical or allegorical (
Faulk 2004). 
They typically assert that there was no miraculous creation, no Edenic state, and no literal Fall

Perhaps the most popular science-based argument against a literal Adam and Eve is the claim that it would be impossible for just two people to give rise to all the genetic diversity we see in the human population today. Some theistic evolutionists have been aggressively promoting this claim (e.g., Venema 2010; Venema and McKnight 2017). 
On various forums and blogs, some are even claiming they can prove the human population has never been less than several thousand individuals, or that that human allele frequency distributions are proof against a literal Adam and Eve (e.g., Shaffner 2017a, 2017b).

Interestingly, other evolutionists caution that allele frequency analysis does not justify making dogmatic historical inferences (Myers, Fefferman, and Patterson 2008; Terhorst and Song 2015; Harpak, Bhasker, and Pritchard 2016; Baharian and Gravel 2018). This does not mean that allele frequency data are useless, however, only that one must be cautious when trying to derive historical models from them. 

We have been exploring the concept that Adam and Eve might have been created in a heterozygous state for more than a decade. We call this the Designed Diversity Model
Our 2005 version of the numerical simulation program Mendel’s Accountant (hereafter “Mendel”) included an “initial contrasting alleles” (ICA) option that was intended to enable the study of created diversity in a human population. At that time, we understood that the first human couple could have been designed with millions of variable genetic sites.

The Designed Diversity Model requires an expanded vocabulary. Traditionally it has been assumed that genetic variation only comes from mutations, giving rise to mutational variants (“mutational alleles”). However, given a miraculous creation, there could be a very different class of created variants (“designed alleles”). Mutational alleles and designed alleles would be different in several important respects. 
Mutational alleles need time to accumulate, 
while designed alleles can exist from the beginning. 
Mutational alleles are essentially random typographical errors in the genome and so are typically harmful, while designed alleles would logically be created to be beneficial. 
While mutational alleles always arise in a population as a single isolated copy, designed alleles would logically be created at higher frequencies.

It is widely understood that a mutational allele arises as a single copy – which is, therefore, on the verge of its own extinction
When a new mutation enters a population, its frequency is just one copy in a population of 2n (with n being the population’s size). Therefore, most mutational alleles are rapidly lost due to genetic drift within just a few generations (Rupe and Sanford 2013). 

While mutational alleles are typically very rare, designed alleles would typically be expected to be abundant, in accord with the nature of their function, and in accord with their initially designed frequencies
The smallest possible unit of genetic variation involves a single letter difference in the genome. Population geneticists call these single nucleotide variants (SNVs). 
If the minor allele is found at a frequency greater than 1%, such a variant allele is also called a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP). For simplicity, and in keeping with the final report from the 1000 Genomes Project (1000 Genomes 2015), we will use the term “SNP” for all single nucleotide variations, regardless of their allelic frequency. 
The 1000 Genomes Project detected 84 million SNPs within the human population (1000 Genomes 2015). The vast majority of these are very rare alleles (about 64 million of the observed SNPs had allele frequencies of less than 0.5%). However, this is still a serious underestimate of how many rare human alleles exist. 

Given our current population size and mutation rate, every nucleotide site in the human genome should mutate many times every generation somewhere on this planet. Therefore, the number of
existing
SNPs should be roughly the size of the genome (3 billion). But most of these variants are so rare that they are not detectable, due to limited sampling size. Most rare human alleles are unique to a single people group or sub-population. This indicates that most of these rare variants have arisen via mutation in the relatively recent past. We have previously proposed that, excluding rare alleles, a large fraction of currently observed human genetic diversity might have arisen from designed genetic variants that were built into Adam and Eve when they were first created (Sanford and Carter 2015a, 2015b). The latest analysis of the human genome (1000 Genomes 2015), indicates that there are only 8 million SNPs with allele frequencies of 5% or more. 
Hypothetically, most of these common alleles could be designed alleles. The average person living today carries 4–5 million SNP alleles (Levy et al. 2007). Therefore, a single human today accounts for a large fraction (approximately 30%) of all common genetic variation (Carter 2018). 

The African people groups tend to have slightly higher rates of polymorphism (Gurdasani et al. 2014; 1000 Genomes 2015). Since there are only about 8 million common SNPs in the human population, and since most of the SNPs in a single person are common SNPs, this means that any given person carries a very significant percentage of all the common genetic variants found across the world (Carter 2018). 
A single modern couple should carry most of the 8 million common SNPs that are ubiquitous in the human population. Obviously, the genomes of Adam and Eve could have contained this amount of diversity and much more (Sanford and Carter 2015a, 2015b).

Some fraction of the pre-Flood genetic diversity would be lost due to the genetic bottleneck of the Biblical Flood. However, population geneticists have known for decades that even the most extreme bottleneck (i.e., two people) can capture a significant amount of a population’s pre-bottleneck diversity, assuming the bottleneck only lasts for one or just a few generations and is followed by rapid population re-growth (Nei et al. 1975). 

In addition to the 8 million common alleles (most of which may be designed alleles), the 1000 Genomes Project identified another 64 million rare SNPs (most of which can be assumed to be mutational alleles). 
Q: How many generations would it take for 64 million mutations to accumulate? 
A: Given a mutation rate of roughly 100 mutations per person per generation, and assuming our current population of over 7 billion people, it would require less than one generation to accumulate 64 million mutations in the human population

Even for a human population of just 10,000, it would only take about 80 generations. While most new mutational alleles usually drift out of a population, the rate of loss of mutational alleles would be greatly reduced in a population that is continuously growing rapidly. In light of all this, the blanket claim, “There is no way Adam and Eve could have given rise to so much diversity,” is not reasonable
While Adam and Eve could clearly have given rise to the currently
observed amount of human genetic diversity, a more technical objection can still be raised. It deals with the specific distribution of the variant alleles observed in the human population. The narrower claim becomes, “Adam and Eve could not possibly account for the specific patterns of allele frequencies that we see in the modern human population.” This more technical objection is not easily dismissed and calls for careful consideration.

To address these challenges, we developed a modified version of the Mendel program (version 2.7.2), and also a completely redesigned version of Mendel (“Mendel-Go”) written in the state-of-the-art computer language “Go”. 
We included a new dynamic population size function, so that special experiments could be conducted where population size was continuously dynamic (changing). We improved older features that enabled such things as tracking initially created alleles, studying normal mutation accumulation, and examining the effects of small founder populations, mid-run population bottlenecks, and subsequent population re-growth. 
Modifications were made so that the changing allele frequencies in the dynamic population could still be tracked across generations. At the end of each experiment, the final allele frequency distribution could be plotted and could be compared to actual allele frequency distributions seen in today’s human population. In this paper we will use logic and numerical simulation to show that the claim that “there is no possible way…” is overreaching. There are multiple genetic mechanisms that can reconcile the Biblical Adam and Eve with the observed human allele distribution data.

Our simulations required the creation and tracking of two very different types of genetic variation. 
The first type was the classically understood mutational allele, and the second type was the designed allele
Mutational alleles would arise essentially as word-processing errors in the genome. This type of mutational allele would always arise as a rare variant. Mutations are always occurring, and mutation count per individual consistently increases in number. Our default mutation rate was 100 mutations per person per generation. Our default mutational effect was “near-zero” (i.e., there was essentially no selection happening, all mutational alleles would be drifting). 

In addition to mutational alleles, we simulated initial genetic variants that were created as designed allelic pairs, wherein each allele in a pair had its own designed function. Designed allele pairs would be present at the beginning of a Mendel run. 

Under the heterozygous Adam and Eve model, there would be just four copies of each chromosome in Eden, and so every designed allele pair would have a ratio of either 50/50 or 25/75 (so all initial allele frequencies for the designed alleles would be either 0.25 or 0.50 or 0.75). 

In our evolutionary simulations, we have observed that mutational allele frequency distributions are determined by the rate of genetic
drift, which is dependent on the parameter settings for population size, mutation rate, and time.
Mutational alleles continuously enter the population at very low initial frequencies and those that are not lost to drift will very slowly drift toward the right (i.e., away from zero). The rate of drift in any population with 1,000 or more individuals is exceedingly slow. Only after deep time can a large population reach mutation/drift equilibrium, where older alleles are drifting to fixation as fast as new alleles are drifting into the population. 
When mutation/drift equilibrium is reached, the allele frequency distribution stabilizes. At the same time, the total number of polymorphisms in the population stops increasing. 

We first performed simulations with only designed alleles (no new mutations arising). The allele “distribution” is a single spike at 50%. Given this starting point, and given a constant population size of 1000, after 200 generations the distribution was a narrow bell-shaped curve that was still centered at 50%, indicating that in this time there had been very limited genetic drift. 
----A second, more Biblically-realistic experiment involved the same initial allele frequency and a time span of 200 generations, 
*but started with a population of two, 
*followed by rapid population growth, 
*a severe population bottleneck to just 6 people in the tenth generation, 
*followed by a rapid population rebound. 
In this Biblical scenario, we see that two population constrictions can result in much more rapid allele frequency spreading.

Still more promising were simulations that involved designed alleles that all began with a minor allele frequency of 25%. For every allele pair where the minor allele frequency is 25%, there is a contrasting allele with allele a frequency of 75%. 
In this case, the starting allele frequency distribution (in the first generation)  the spike located at 25%. With this lower initial allele frequency, it is much easier to approach the observed human frequency distribution.... after just 20 generations. Most of the distribution is shifting to the left, with the mode shifting downward from 25%. .... what happens after 200 generations. The mode is now approaching zero and the distribution’s bell-shaped curve has become a nearly straight line that slopes downward to the right. When re-scaled, this is the basic shape of the lower-most portion of the actual allele frequency distribution. 

These allele pairs responded rapidly to natural selection, effectively emptying the central part of the distribution and driving the high impact alleles to the left and right extremes (this effectively fills “gap zone” separating the high-frequency created alleles and low frequency mutational alleles). Such strong selective sweeps would be expected to carry many low-impact linked alleles along with them

If there were individually designed gametes/gametogonia in Eden, this would potentially constitute an enormous gene poo1, comparable to the gene pool of a large human population
To transmit a large fraction of the original genetic diversity to later generations would require that the first family was very large. Indeed, it is entirely feasible that Adam and Eve would have had a very large family size, given the extreme longevity and vigor of the early patriarchs (Carter and Hardy 2015). In such an extremely large family, there could have been 100 or more different sets of chromosomes, representing a very substantial sampling of the primordial gene pool that existed within Adam and Eve’s gametes. This means that the variants in that first human population could have started with almost any initial allele frequency distribution, in accord with God’s design for mankind. In the same way, the initial population of gametes could have also started with a great diversity of linkage patterns, as might have been in accord with God’s design."
ICC

Wednesday, December 3, 2025

The Saints Cry from under the Altar

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Revelation 6:9,10


"The scenes which John was viewing were upon the earth, hence, in the absence of proof that any other altar is meant, it seems a
necessary conclusion that John saw the place of slaughter of the church of God by Papal Rome, where the earth has drunk up the blood of martyrs, under the figure of an altar of sacrifice.


These slain are represented as crying to God to have their blood avenged on them that dwell on the earth, the same as the voice of Abel’s blood from the ground;

Dr. Clarke, himself a believer in the conscious state of the dead, makes the following frank admission, in his notes on this chapter: “And they cried with a loud voice.” That is, their blood, like that of Abel, cried for vengeance; for we are not to suppose that there was anything like a vindictive spirit in those happy and holy souls who had shed their blood for the testimony of Jesus. We sometimes say, Blood cries for blood; that is, in the order of Divine justice, every murderer, and every murdering persecutor, shall be punished."

Luther and his associates were imbued with the spirit of this cry which went up from the earth that had drunk the blood of millions of the martyrs of Jesus slain, and they exposed the corruptions of the Papacy, which trembled before the reformers, and in 1798 AD was stripped of its civil authority. 
Thus the blood of the martyrs was avenged on those that dwelt on the earth. This has no reference to the final judgment and punishment of the wicked; but refers to the change in the condition of the Papacy." James White

Creation Moment 12/4/2025 - Why Darwinism Persists

For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see His invisible qualities—His eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. Romans 1:20 NLT

"Behe addresses two primary categories of structural obstacles to Darwinian evolution: irreducible complexity and devolutionary processes, which fundamentally resist the mechanism of random mutation and natural selection.

The first structural obstacle rests on the reality that modern biology has revealed the cell to be made of machines, complex systems within the cell that cannot originate in the gradual fashion upon which Darwinism insists.

A second, more recently discovered structural obstacle arises from scientists’ ability in the last 20 years to track molecular changes (mutations in DNA) over time and generations. The data shows that the Darwinian process often helps organisms adapt, but it does so overwhelmingly by breaking things that already existed in the organism’s genome. A process that degrades aboriginal design might bring about limited change over time, but it doesn’t have the power to create new forms.

Behe says Darwinism persists because it’s an ideology supported by people who want it to be true for reasons other than science."
Science&CultureToday

Tuesday, December 2, 2025

What Day Is the Sabbath?

"It is plainly recorded that the Creator, after laboring the first six days,
in which He completed the work of creation, rested the following day, which was the seventh in the order of creation. 
This particular day God therefore sanctified and blessed.
Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day.
But what removes all obscurity from the subject is, that God has positively declared that the day which He commanded to be observed in Exodus 20: is the same on which He rested at the close of the creation. 
Exodus 20:8,10,11  Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested on the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. 
This language is definite; and while it assures us that the day here commanded to be observed is the same in its weekly returns with the day on which God rested, it assures us against any derangement of the week, or loss of time which might have been produced in the long lapse of time from the creation, by the general apostasy from the true worship of God. " 
James White

Creation Moment 12/3/2025 - James D. Watson was truly "WITHOUT EXSCUSE"

For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, ... so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20
James D. Watson was the man among modern humans who should have been more "without excuse" than any other as being the first to see the Codes of the DNA molecule....yet he hardened his heart.

"No scientist, no human being, could leave a more tortured and contradictory legacy than geneticist James D. Watson, co-discoverer in 1953 of the elegant structure of the DNA molecule. He died this month at age 97.

A noxious atheist, Watson unwittingly pointed the way toward
scientific evidence of a creator.

A noxious racist, citing supposed genetic evidence of African racial inferiority, Watson’s work with DNA suggests that human beings can’t in fact be reduced to “genes.”
No one could deny the beauty of the DNA molecule’s double helix, for the revelation of which Watson with his partner Francis Crick shared the Nobel Prize.
Atheism literally means just the negation of theism, or belief in a deity. Watson’s atheism, on the other hand, was no mere negation. It was an acid bath.

Every time you understand something,” he announced in 2003 on the 50th anniversary of his discovery with Crick, “religion becomes
less likely.

The notion of our assuming the place of God, as “human gods,” charmed him. In 2000, he said, answering doubts about genetic engineering, “But then, in all honesty, if scientists don’t play god, who will?
There was a nihilism to his views. As he told fellow atheist scientist Richard Dawkins, in Dawkins’s 2006 book The God Delusion, human existence is purposeless: “Well I don’t think we’re for anything. We’re just products of evolution.” 
MindMatters

Monday, December 1, 2025

"obliged, be under obligation"

"John 13:14-17 
If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; you also
Ought to wash one another’s feet. 
For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you.  
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. If you know these things, happy are you if you do them. 
The word “ought” in this Scripture is from the Greek ofeilo, and, according to Greenfield, means, …to be bound to the performance of some duty, be obliged, be under obligation." 
M.E. Cornell

Creation Moment 12/2/2025 - God's CHOICE

"Out of nothing God created all things; “so that things which are
seen were not made of things which do appear.
”(Hebrews 11:3) This act of creation is that event which marks the commencement of the first week of time. 
He who could accomplish the whole work with one word chose rather to employ six days, and to accomplish the result by successive steps." 
J.N. Andrews

Christ leads us to the beginning of them both

"The two ancient institutions of the Lord in Paradise were Marriage and the Sabbath, both which are called and esteemed honorable. “Marriage is honorable in all” (Hebrews 13:4); and in Isaiah the Sabbath is called “…the Holy of the Lord, honorable” (Isaiah 58:13); and Christ leads us to the beginning of them both

*When the question was whether men might put away their wives for
every fault, the answer is, that Moses did but suffer it to be so, because of the hardness of their hearts, but from the beginning it was not so.
Matthew 19:34-37
*And when the Pharisees were so ignorant, that they thought works of mercy were not to be done upon the Sabbath day, Christ leads them to the first institution of it, and tells them it was made for man. Mark 2:24, 27

Both these institutions were made for the good and benefit of man in his Paradise estate, which is sufficient proof for their duration. 
*Paul says, that “The man was not created for the woman, but the woman for the man.1 Corinthians 11:9
*And our blessed Lord of the Sabbath said that “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.Mark 2:27." Edward Stennet 1658

Creation Moment 12/1/2025 - Dangers of Darwinian Eugenics

"C. S. Lewis is often underutilized as a source regarding topics that he would likely have considered extremely important. Among these areas is his perspective on eugenics.

With the understanding that
eugenics involves the intentional “improvement” of the human race, three historical observations from the early 1900s give some background to this practice. 
First, the thought of the Western world as a whole leaned strongly in favor of the implementation of eugenics. 
Second, the landmark decision of Buck v. Bell in America allowed for the enforced sterilization of those deemed mentally unfit. 
Lastly, the Nazi regime went even further by carrying out an aggressive eugenics program on a racial level. 
With this understanding of what eugenics means in theory and practice, Lewis’ philosophical, ethical, and theological arguments against it lay an important groundwork for both refuting the philosophy of eugenics as well as applying a Christian worldview to practices today: gene editing and abortion.

The West still faces the same ethical questions posed in Lewis’ day. Stephen Phillips, comparing eugenics to the recent advances in gene-editing technology, writes, “Just as an evolutionary understanding of human beings and human morality leads to a rejection of objective values, the power to determine the characteristics of future human beings will do the same” (Phillips 2012). His conclusion? The wisdom of Lewis has never been more important to grasp, for he saw that the true evil of eugenics lay in the way it taught man that humans could surpass their nature by destroying the philosophical, ethical, and religious principles of Christianity.

Through eugenics, Lewis argued that humanity would not simply forget but erase the definition of what it meant to be human, and this, he thought, was a self-destructive process."
To simplify, for every gain in power, humans will lose freedom. Eugenics, by giving humans greater power over themselves, makes man a slave of man, gradually removing the “pity, happiness, and freedom” of humans by turning them into potentially fitter but quite mechanical creatures (Lewis 1966).

His overarching philosophical goal was to lead humans toward true purpose, the purpose found in Christ alone: “God designed the human machine to run on Himself. He Himself is the fuel our spirits were designed to burn, or the food our spirits were designed to feed on. There is no other” (Lewis 1960, 54). In other words, the most fundamental and necessary purpose of humanity is to get closer to God, the source of spiritual life.

Christians must oppose any presence of eugenics today because it holds all the tempting allure of Satan (For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil. Genesis 3:5). But like any devilish trick, it can only lead to death." 
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