Have you ever wondered.......

And he called his name Noah.... Genesis 5:29
"Have you ever wondered if the pre-flood world had a written language? 

*Because of evolutionary ideas, many people view humans from the

past as less intelligent than modern humans. 

*But humans, made in God’s image from the start, have always been incredibly intelligent and creative.
There’s no reason the pre-flood world couldn’t have had a written language. 

And archaeological discoveries, like the Ebla tablets, reveal that some of Noah’s close descendants utilized a sophisticated writing system not long after the flood." 

AIG

Those (These) Days of Noah & Days of Lot

"When Jesus spoke about His eventual return, He referenced two

historical periods — the days of Noah and the days of Lot. These comparisons serve as profound prophetic warnings about the state of humanity and the world before His Second Coming.

By examining these eras, we gain insight into the societal conditions, moral decay, and spiritual apathy that will characterize the last days.

In Luke 17:26-30, Jesus said:
“As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were

given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise, as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

Through these words, Jesus highlighted the complacency and preoccupation with daily life that characterized these eras. The warnings serve as a call to vigilance and spiritual readiness for His return.

The story of Noah’s time is found in Genesis 6:1-8. Humanity had reached unprecedented levels of corruption and wickedness. The Bible describes this period as a time when “the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5).

Moral Decay: The people in Noah’s day were consumed by self-interest and materialism. Similar to Paul’s warning in 2 Timothy 3:2-4, they were “lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers … lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.” 

Today’s culture mirrors these traits. The rise of social media has amplified self-obsession and the relentless pursuit of personal validation. Just as in Noah’s day, spiritual apathy and moral degradation are evident.

Disregard for God’s Warnings: Despite Noah’s preaching of righteousness, the people ignored God’s warnings. This parallels today’s indifference to the gospel and the rejection of absolute truth.

Sexual Immorality: Sodom’s inhabitants were consumed by sexual perversion, including acts of homosexuality and other unnatural

desires. Jude 1:7 states, “Sodom and Gomorrah … having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh … are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” 

Today’s culture mirrors this moral decline, with widespread acceptance of practices that contradict God’s design for sexuality. 

Violence and Injustice: Sodom was marked by violence, oppression, and a lack of regard for human life. These characteristics are evident in today’s world.

Apathy Toward God: The people of Sodom disregarded God’s authority and moral laws. Similarly, secular humanism and relativism dominate modern society, leading many away from God’s truth.

Worldliness: Lot’s hesitancy to leave Sodom and his wife’s longing for the city’s pleasures reflect the dangers of attachment to worldly desires. Today, materialism and the pursuit of comfort often hinder spiritual commitment.

One striking parallel is the rise of transhumanism. This movement’s

pursuit of human enhancement through technology raises concerns about tampering with the Imago Dei — the image of God in humanity. Theological challenges include:

Alteration of God’s Design: Radical changes to human biology risk undermining God’s creation.
False Promises of Salvation: Transhumanism’s hope for immortality through technology contradicts the gospel’s message of eternal life through Christ."

Sodom’s destruction serves as a reminder of God’s judgment upon unrepentant sin. 

Yet, His mercy is evident in the rescue of Lot and his family.

Similarly, God offers salvation through Christ to all who turn to Him in repentance and faith."

PhilHotsenpiller/WJ

Osirus, Noah and that 17th day... Echoes of the Flood in paganism?

"If Horus is the deified Ham, in what way are Geb and Osiris like
Noah? Regarding Geb’s function, Egyptologist H. te Velde states:

“Innumerable texts and expressions dating from all periods of Egyptian history testify to the connection between Geb and the earth … . The word gbb ‘earth’, [Wb 5, 164.7–8] too, is derived from the name of the god … .”

For instance, Coffin Text (CT)-78 describes how Shu separated his children Geb (the earth), from Nut (the sky) during creation. At Genesis 5:29, Noah is associated with the earth by Lamech, who prophetically:

“… called his name Noah, saying, ‘Out of the ground [ăd̲āmā^h] that the LORD has cursed, this one shall bring us relief from our work and from the painful toil of our hands.’”

This verse connects to Genesis 8:20–21 where Noah’s soothing (nîḥō^aḥ) sacrifice brought relief from YHWH’s curse to the ground/soil (ăd̲āmā^h). Later, Genesis 9:20 states: “Noah began to be a man of the soil [ʾîš hāʾăd̲āmā^h], and he planted a vineyard” (ESV). Here, Noah became the Second Adam, a “man of the soil”, to restart the new post-Flood world. Noah’s produce of the ground (wine) brought a soothing/(nîḥō^aḥ) rest from Noah’s labors (Genesis 9:21) and with it, a fresh curse.

 

Divine epithets of Osiris (phonetically reminiscent of ‘Noah’)

include Nny, which means ‘The Tired One’ (LGG IV, 248–249), known from the Middle Kingdom, whose hieroglyph shows a ‘resting figure’, ‘nu pot’ and ‘seated god’ . For example CT-431 states: “the Inert One (nny) who ascends from the watery-abyss (nn).” Significantly, nny is also an OK epithet meaning ‘tired’ e.g. PT-578§1534a. The divine name Nw.w ‘Nun’ (Wb 2, 215.5–6) is found commonly in PTs, e.g. PT-233§237a. Text from the 26th Dynasty texts (664–610 BC) also place Osiris directly in the Abyss:

wnn wsjr m n.t nw.w “Osiris exists in the Nun.”

Noah means ‘rest/comfort’ (cf. Genesis 5:29) and is conceptually

equivalent to Osiris (Nw/nny) (‘tired/inert’)—offering a striking semantic and phonetic connection with Noah.

 

..... identified Ogdoad Nu as the paganized memory of Noah. Is Horus’s father Osiris connected to Nu? Egyptologist H.M. Tirard recognized that Osiris and Nu (of the Ogdoad) were interchangeable, stating:

“In one of the lists of the Ennead the name of Osiris is replaced by that of Nu, the primaeval water … .”

***A festival of Osiris called Khoiak dramatized the struggle between Osiris and Seth, resulting in Osiris’s death and resurrection. 

The festival started on the 12^th day of Hathor (Greek Athyr)—third

month of the year, and season of Akhet (Inundation). Khoiak lasted until the end of the month, commemorated by Osiris’s revivification—marked by planting crops at the start of the new agricultural year.

The festival commemorated the drowning of King Osiris by Seth, who then dismembered his body. These parts were delivered throughout Osiris’s kingdom. Osiris’s wife, Isis, relentlessly searched for the pieces, finding all but his phallus—so Isis modeled a new one. 

She mummified the pieces, which revived Osiris, who fathered Horus by her. Osiris then descended to the underworld as Lord of the dead. After this, Horus, Osiris’s son and heir, violently and incestuously struggled against Seth—until Horus’s final victory. However, in the festival, Seth is no longer Osiris’s son (as per some PTs), rather his evil brother.

 

Greco-Roman temple texts at Dendera relate Khoiak’s dramatization. Priests commemorated Horus lifting Osiris’s body from the water of the sacred lake and carrying it to the temple. Osiris was represented by a model mummy made of bitumen—placed in a small wooden boat, ritually floated across the ceremonial lake (representing Nu/Primeval Ocean)—and buried by Horus priests in the temple.

 

Plutarch, the Greek philosophe, ascribed to Egyptian priests the belief that Osiris died on the 17^th of Athyr, when Seth (Typhon), by trickery, trapped Osiris in a wooden box, which was cast into the Nile, and floated out to sea.

 

Osiris’s ‘ordeal by water’ within his dbn ‘round-topped wooden box’ (Wb 5, 437.16). 

 

Noah (and family) entered the ark (Tēb̲at̲) on the 17^th day of the second month (Genesis 7:11), which rested on Ararat the 17^th day of the seventh month (Genesis 8:4) (the next year). Noah’s exit from the Ark (salvation from the Flood) and his restarting of the post-Flood civilization can be understood theologically as a resurrection/re-creation event. This may echo Plutarch’s testimony of Osiris’s entering his dbn on the 17^th day of the third month, the season of Inundation, followed by his resurrection/re-creation. The Osiris bitumen mummy may share connections with the ‘pitch’ covering Noah’s Ark (Genesis 6:14). Admittedly, such evidence appears late in Egyptian history.

 

When Horus’s father(s) are compared with Ham’s father, Noah, several striking connections can be made. Osiris’s association through Geb with the earth, echoes Noah as the ‘man of earth’ bringing rest from the curse because of the cursed earth.

Osiris the ‘weary’ parallels Noah the ‘restful’., Noah enters the Tēb̲at̲ on the 17^th of the second month, which rests on Ararat on the 17^th of the seventh month of the Flood, resembles Osiris entering his dbn on the 17^th of the Inundation month. Therefore, Osiris/ Geb as Horus’s father(s) resembles Noah as Ham’s father." CMI

The Egyptian Ogdoad

These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations. Genesis 10:20

"If Noah’s family became objects of pagan worship as deified ancestors, then it would be likely that they had their own worship temple and center, predicting a ‘cult of the eight’ in ancient Egypt, with its own temple, lore, and textual tradition.
Also, the names of Noah, Ham, Shem, and Japheth should be preserved in ancient Egyptian onomastics, if Ham passed on the knowledge of them to his sons and so forth.

Egyptologists are well aware of a group of eight gods known as the Ogdoad derived from the Greek meaning ‘eight’, which in modern hieroglyphic transliteration is written ḫmnw (Khemnw). The Ogdoad are also well known in later Ptolomaic and Roman period texts where they receive much theological speculation.

Egyptologist David Silverman offers an introductory summary of them explaining their role in Egyptian cosmological theology concerning the creation of the universe from the watery abys called the Nun:“... in a series of abstract concepts: waterniness (nwj)... the most basic qualities, enshrined in the names ofthe water (Nu, Nun); infinity (hhw); darkness (kkw);(tnmw, literally ‘lostness’) or hiddenness (jmnw) ...they are usually depicted as four pairs of gods and goddesses, whose names are masculine and feminine counterparts of each other: Nun and Naunet, Huh and Hauhet, Kuk and Kauket, Ammun and Amuanet."
 

Collectively, the eight deities are known as the Ogdoad... [who] were venerated as creator-deities: ‘the fathers and mothers who were before the original gods’ ... .” The earliest complete set of names and images of the Ogdoad, discovered (so far) by archaeologists, comes from the 26th Dynasty tombs of El-Bawiti (664–525 bc) in the oasis of Baḥaria. 

 

The Ogdoad is shown anthropomorphic and serpent-headed (creatures the Egyptians associated with water) and comprise four males and their emale consorts, whose names are written in cartouches above their heads. ...the Ogdoad as apes (creatures the
Egyptians associated with worship of the first sunrise at creation,  unnamed images of which occur in earlier Middle Kingdom temple inscriptions..... Both depictions show the Ogdoad assisting the air god Shu in supporting the sky, upon which the solar bark of the sun god Re sails.

The Egyptians believed the Ogdoad’s role was to maintain creation’s balance, by stopping the sky from collapsing back into the Nun (the Egyptian idea of a primeval flood), which in Egyptian cosmology was believed to be a state of chaos, from which the creation emerged. This is strikingly parallel to the concepts of Creation as revealed in Genesis 1 and also mirrored within the Flood account in the role of the tehôm—the Great Deep. 

 

The chief god is called Nu—which is phonetically similar to Noah, Nu’s wife is the feminine form—Naunet. The other gods are Heh and Hauhet, Kek and Kauket, and Amun and Amaunet.

 Meanings of the names of the Ogdoad are derived from contextual evidence from the texts from which they occur.
Egyptologist Geraldine Pinch summarizes these names as
follows: “Nun and his female counterpart Naunet, the deities of the primeval waters ... Amun and Amunete, deities of invisible power, or the breath of life ... Primeval darkness was represented by Kek and Keket ... Heh and Hehet ... may originally have embodied the strong currents in the Primeval Waters”.

 

The following relationships, as a
working hypothesis, are summarized below:

Noah ≈ Nu
Ham ≈ Kek
Shem ≈ Amun
Japheth ≈ Heh

The connections are intriguing .

 

By the end of the Old Kingdom, texts were being inscribed on the walls and corridors of Pharaonic pyramids....... Saqqara is also known as the location of the first pyramid to be constructed in Egypt—the stepped pyramid of King Djoser (3rd Dynasty).  

The 5th Dynasty texts, which are highly esoteric spells for the afterlife, represent the oldest corpus of religious writings preserved from ancient Egypt.
The first pharaoh to incorporate these magical spells into his pyramid was Unas, (W) who was the last king of the 5th Dynasty.

Other pyramids of interest are Pepi Meryre I pyramid, Queen Neith (Nt) (daughter of Pepi I), Merenre and Pepi Meryre I pyramids. These contain the names associated with the Ogdoad—specifically two pairs, Nu and Naunet, and Amun and Amaunet in Unas pyramid spell W 301§446.  PT
text 585§1580b–1581, located in Queen Neith’s chamber, refers specifically to the Ogdoad as an unnamed group, or possibly the city dedicated to them, repeated in Merenre and Pepi Meryre I pyramids.

 

Two terms for the Great Flood occur.

The divine title mḥy.t-wr.t (“Great Flood”) occurs in W 317§508; and Nt 493§1059 which states: “May you cause  that Neith eat as Ne[per] who comes into being there, like Osiris who is upon the Great Flood.” 

The other term for “Great Flood” occurs in Pepi 1 pyramid and Unas pyramid. 

From Egyptologist R.O. Faulkner’s translation, PT311§498–500 states:
“... contend with fierce roaring(?) with those who are in trouble, with those whom they would destroy. May they not make opposition when I turn to you ... this name of yours of Great Flood ... .” 

An analysis of the Pyramid Texts demonstrates that all the names associated with the Ogdoad are present, appearing either as divine names, or impersonal, cosmological concepts, along with two terms
for the ‘Great Flood’. 

Do these Ogdoad and Flood names and concepts survive into later stages of Egyptian history? 

...the Egyptian Coffin Texts (CT), which represent funerary spells adorning coffins during the Middle Kingdom. CTs are so called because they were written in ink on interiors, and more rarely
exteriors of coffins belonging to wealthy Middle Kingdom Egyptians. 

 CTs cover a diverse set of genres including hymns, prayers, and magical spells. 

The following CT spells are of interest from a point of view of discussing the Ogdoad.
The title “eight Chaos-gods” which take their name from Ogdoad member Heh, occurs in CTs 76, 78–81, (known as the “Book of Shu”—Shu being the name of the airgod), and the title “Chaos-gods”.

 

Because these names appear in the oldest Egyptian texts we can be confident that they are not a later invention.

As the Bible clearly links Egypt with Ham and his son Mizraim, this study has concentrated its efforts there.  

The question has been asked, is there a memory of Noah and the Flood readily identifiable in the religious writings of ancient Egypt?

Egypt’s oldest known texts— the 5th Dynasty Pyramid Texts.
These texts contain the names known from later history that make up the Ogdoad, along with their designation Khemnw (either referring to the eight gods, or “Eight City”, being the city of the Ogdoad, and two terms for the Great Flood."

GavinCox/CMI

Plant Growth after the Flood

And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 

Genesis 8:11

"Once the continents emerged above water during the Recessional stage of the Flood, plants likely started growing on the newly exposed land.

Log and vegetation mats that contained seeds, spores, and plant debris including roots would have been left on the new land. These mats would also have floated on the oceans for many years after the Flood, dispersing animals and vegetation to many land areas.

 Another mechanism for fast plant growth has recently been discovered on a nearly sterile landscape in Brazil.

Quartzite, a metamorphic sandstone that is almost pure quartz, makes up the bedrock of a region called campos rupestres (Portuguese meaning ‘rocky grasslands’). The soil from this area is shallow and patchy with nearly undetectable levels of nutrients needed by plants. However, it sustains more than 5,000 plant species! Some of the plants even survive on bare patches of quartzite bedrock.

Quartzite is almost pure silica and has extremely little phosphorus, one of the main elements needed for plant growth. But despite the very low amount of phosphorus, roots from plants of the Velloziaceae family bore into the quartzite to obtain it. This is a never-before observed root specialization. The roots, which are very hairy, penetrate the quartzite at least 10 cm along former sandstone bedding planes. The roots give off acids that dissolve the rock.

We are increasingly discovering that many of the plants that

colonized the earth after the Flood had root specializations that would have aided growth in even nutrient-poor soil or bare rock. This reflects a creation usefully designed to bounce back from a calamity, e.g. the Genesis Flood. In the case of the Velloziaceae family, even bare quartzite rock produced growth. The combination of newly laid soil, scattered seeds that survived the Flood, log mats, and the unique ability of plants to squeak out nutrients from unlikely places all add up to a rapid recovery of the earth’s vegetation after the Flood." CMI

Point Extrapolated from Noah's Age

 "Noah lived three hundred and fifty years after the flood, and Shem, his son, lived until Abraham was about one hundred and fifty years old; or, till about seventy-five years after Abraham was called into the land of Canaan. 

 

These things show how easily was the knowledge of God, and of the fact of creation, preserved for several thousands of years. 

Besides this knowledge being transmitted from a father unto his sons'
sons, unto many generations, God was continually revealing himself unto his servants by visions, by dreams, by the visits of angels, etc. 

 

--The flood did not come, and the Lord did not confound the

language of the people, because of their ignorance. 

--They did not sin ignorantly. 

These calamities befell them because, as Paul said, "They did not like to retain God in their knowledge," and, "When they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful."
Rom. 1:28, 21."

Joseph Waggoner

The Dove Lesson

 The dove came in to him in the evening. Genesis 8:11

"The dove found no rest out of the ark, and therefore returned to it; --and my soul has learned yet more fully than ever, this day, that there is no satisfaction to be found in earthly things—God alone can give rest to my spirit. 

It was at the still hour, when the gates of the day were closing, that with weary wing the dove came back to the master: 

She could not endure to spend a night hovering over the restless waste, not can I bear to be even for another hour away from Jesus, the rest of my heart, the home of my spirit. She did not merely alight upon the roof of the ark, she "came in to him;" even so would my longing spirit look into 

the secret of the Lord, 

pierce to the interior of truth, 

enter into that which is within the veil, 

and reach to my Beloved. 

 

I note that the dove brought in her mouth an olive branch plucked off, the memorial of the past day, and a prophecy of the future. ....Yes, my Lord, I present Thee my grateful acknowledgments for tender mercies which have been new every morning and fresh every evening; and now, I pray Thee, put forth Thy hand and take Thy dove into Thy bosom." Charles Spurgeon

The Fruit & Nakedness of Both Stories

 "Noah and his family were the only people saved through the global

Flood. 

Yet Genesis draws a deliberate comparison with Adam when it tells the story of how Noah got drunk. 

 

 ---Both sinned in relation to fruit, 

---and suffered shame related to nakedness as a result. 

The message is clear: sin is still present in the post-Flood world, and in the post-Flood human family." CMI

 

.... she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, 

and gave also unto her husband with her; 

and he did eat.

Genesis 3:6

And he drank of the wine, and was drunken.... 

Genesis 9:29 

 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

Genesis 3:10

... and he was uncovered within his tent.

Genesis 9:29

Calvin's Observation of Genesis 7:6

 Verse 6. And Noah was six hundred years old.

 

"It is not without reason that he again mentions the age of Noah. 

---For old age has this among other evils, that it renders men more indolent and morose; whence the faith of Noah was the more conspicuous, because it did not fail him in that advanced period of life. And as it was a great excellence, not to languish through successive centuries, so big promptitude deserves no little commendation; because, being commanded to enter the ark, he immediately obeyed. 

 

When Moses shortly afterwards subjoins, that he had entered on account of the waters of the deluge, 

---the words ought not to be expounded, as if he were compelled, by the rushing of the waters, to flee into the ark; but that he, being moved with fear by the word, perceived by faith the approach of that deluge which all others ridiculed. 

 

Wherefore, his faith is again commended in this place, because, indeed, he raised his eyes above heaven and earth."

Calvin

Calvin's Excellent Breakdown of Joshua 24:2

 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. Joshua 24:2

"Your fathers dwelt on the other side, etc He begins his address by

referring to their gratuitous adoption by which God had anticipated any application on their part, so that they could not boast of any peculiar excellence or merit. For God had bound them to himself by a closer tie, having, while they were no better than others, gathered them together to be his peculiar people, from no respect to anything but his mere good pleasure. ..... he leads them back to their origin, and reminds them how their fathers had dwelt in Chaldea, 

--worshiping idols in common with others, 

--and differing in nothing from the great body of their countrymen. Hence it is inferred that Abraham, when he was plunged in idolatry, was raised up, as it were, from the lowest deep.

 

But if we attend to the words of the inspired writer, we shall see that he is no more exempted from the guilt of the popular idolatry than Terah and Nachor. 

For why is it said that the fathers of the people served strange gods, and that Abraham was rescued from the country, but just to show how the free mercy of God was displayed in their very origin? 

*Had Abraham been unlike the rest of his countrymen, his own piety would distinguish him. The opposite, however, is expressly mentioned to show that he had no peculiar excellence of his own which could diminish the grace bestowed upon him, and that therefore his posterity behooved to acknowledge that when he was lost, he was raised up from death unto life.

It seems almost an incredible and monstrous thing, that while Noah was yet alive, idolatry had not only spread everywhere over the world, but even penetrated into the family of Shem, in which at least, a purer religion ought to have flourished. 

How insane and indomitable human infatuation is in this respect, is proved by the fact that the holy Patriarch, on whom the divine blessing had been specially bestowed, was unable to curb his posterity, and prevent them from abandoning the true God, and prostituting themselves to superstition." Calvin