Reformation Day (496th Anniversary)

October 31 isn't just Halloween....It is also REFORMATION DAY....did ya know that?

"Our Lord has written the promise of resurrection, not in books alone, but in every leaf in springtime."
Martin Luther

"There is no worse screen to block out the Spirit than confidence in our own intelligence."
John Calvin

"Christ is our justification, from which follows that our good works, if they are of Christ, are good; but if ours, they are neither right or good."
Ulrich Zwingli

"Here I stand, I can do no other"
Martin Luther

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace,

that we may obtain mercy,

and find grace to help in time of need.

Hebrews 4:16

 

Above is the dividing line between Protestantism & the Catholic Church which cracked wide open during the Reformation----For those Protestants believed we come to God while Catholicism taught that the Church as an institution intercedes on your behalf.

 

"This unworthy right hand...."
Thomas Cranmer,
....at his execution by being burned at the stake.  He steadfastly held his right hand over the flame until it was burned off, because he had signed a recantation of his reformed beliefs with that hand.

 

Halloween... What to do?

“What is a Christian to do?

 * Should we close our doors on Halloween and shut off our porch lights and ignore what is happening in our neighborhood?
* Is it appropriate to provide an innocent alternative at the church (like some sort of harvest festival or social night)?
* Perhaps we should open our doors to children and give them something healthy (instead of candy) along with Christian literature.

Follow the Bible. Teach your children plainly and clearly that the Bible does not support worshiping or honoring dead people Whether the roots of Halloween
come from the Samhain pagan beliefs in having a feast for the dead or an attempt by the Christian church to honor dead saints. No Christian can truly “celebrate” Halloween.

Draw clear boundaries. Decide, based on Scripture, what you choose to do at Halloween. Some activities at Halloween are obviously things a Christian will not participate in: watching horror movies, eating lots of junk food, playing pranks that hurt people, telling scary stories, or visiting so-called haunted attractions." AmazingFacts

Wherefore come out from among them,

and be ye separate,
saith the Lord,

and touch not the unclean thing;

2 Corinthians 6:17

 

Papal Notes - Papal PR Game hits new high

"A young boy wandered onto the stage at the Vatican this past weekend, hugging Pope Francis as he

tried to give a speech.
The boy, who looks about 6, was originally sitting on the steps near the Pope, while Francis listened to followers address him at the Vatican's Year of Faith Celebration.
Boys will be boys, and this one wanted a closer look at the man in the robe. So, he wandered up to give a personal hello.
But the boy's misadventure didn't end there. He kissed the cross around the Pope's neck.
Eventually Francis convinced the child to take a seat. But he didn't go back to his spot on the steps. Instead, the rambunctious youngster sat on the Pope's chair while he continued his speech, which led to this a-dor-a-ble photo that @pegobry posted on Twitter." YahooNews

The PR Game by this Pope is the best I've ever seen-and now hits a new high, for who could possibly not find this scene "sweet"? (BTW, when I call this "PR", I'm not saying that this was staged).
Yet, we must remember where all this leads to and is about. What this man truly represents, especially in the context of Reformation Day today.
Let us not forget what the office this man holds currently did on the pages of history....and who this office was compared to in Revelation- .....that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Revelation 2:20

 

Poll on women ordination

"70 percent of American Catholics support the ordination of women. That nearly two in every three white evangelicals (63 percent) now agree that women should be eligible for ordination is extraordinary. Already there are small numbers of clergywomen serving evangelical Protestant churches, particularly in Pentecostal contexts such as the Assemblies of God.
What, then, accounts for PRRI’s finding that a sizable proportion of white evangelical Protestants—nearly as large as the proportion of Catholics who share the same view—now supports the ordination of women?   A leading hypothesis is that younger evangelicals are driving growing acceptance of women as pastors.
We analyzed support for women’s ordination among white evangelicals using regression analysis controlling for age and a variety of other demographic controls and found that age was not a significant variable. Other demographic factors we included in our model, such as education, income, and gender were also not significant.
Instead, support for women’s ordination even among the most theologically conservative Americans appears to fit into a broader pattern we have observed in the American public concerning the growing acceptance of women in leadership roles.  For example, studies show that virtually all Americans say they would now vote for a qualified woman to be president, compared to roughly half of Americans in the late 1960s.  As women have entered the workforce in record numbers and now routinely outnumber men in college and most graduate programs, Americans have grown more comfortable seeing women in charge—even in traditionally male-dominated professions such as religious leadership. The notion of a woman pastor, rabbi, or priest is no longer an alien concept to the vast majority of Americans." PublicReligionResearchInstitute

So are we to let Polls shape Church doctrine-or is the attempt to bully the Church into changing its doctrine on women ordination simply the world creeping into the Church by those where truth lies fallen in the streets of their hearts?

Someone who doesn't go by the polls....

Jesus Christ the same yesterday,

and to day,

and for ever.

Hebrews 13:8

IN the NEWS - A Global "Secular" 10 Commandments?

"Lech Walesa, a past winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and former president of Poland, said on

Monday that what the world needs is a new Ten Commandments that’s heavy on the worldly and light on the Judeo-Christian spirituality — a “secular Ten Commandments.”
Mr. Walesa, who won the Nobel prize 30 years ago for his leadership of Poland’s Solidarity trade union and the group’s peaceful end to communism in 1989, said the new Ten Commandments is needed to bring together the world under one basic set of principles, Newsmax reported.
“We need to agree on common values for all religions as soon as possible, a kind of secular Ten

With all due respect Lech,
we already have a "10 Commandments"

Commandments on which we will build the world of tomorrow,” he said, during the summit of Nobel Peace Prize winners in Warsaw.
He didn’t give solid examples of what those core principles would be — but the Ten Commandments already contain what many might consider principles of honest living that are pertinent to all religions, such as “do not steal” and “do not commit false witness.”
Others at the event include: the Dalai Lama, the 2003 Nobel winner Shirin Ebadi, the 1976 laureate Betty Williams and Hollywood star Sharon Stone, who’s due to receive the Peace Summit Award for her campaign against AIDS." WashingtonTimes
So who are these others there at the event?
The Dalai Lama is a Buddhist (which is an atheistic Hindu. In eastern cultures Buddhism is considered atheistic because it rejects the Hindu gods as gods. Only in the west do we consider it a "religion").
Betty Williams, a "peace activist", who twice publicly said she wanted to "KILL" President Bush.
Sharon Stone of Hollywood fame....How do you get a "peace" award for AIDS work?
Shirin Ebadi is a former President of Iran.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:

for it is not subject to the law of God,

neither indeed can be.

Romans 8:7

Creation Moment 10/31/2013 - Creation Site 4 Kids

Creation site 4 kids.....
http://creation.com/cfk-memory-game

Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not:

for of such is the kingdom of God.

Mark 10:14

 

If Subject to a Vote.....

"If the kingdom of heaven could be set up by vote, it would be liable to political overthrow."
American Sentinel 4/20/1899 (an SDA publication)

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:

Romans 8:7

SDA News - The Adventists 2 Trailer

The Adventist 2 Trailer
www.youtube.com/embed/8GaK1yqyReQ

And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God,

and to heal the sick.

Luke 9:2

Exposing American Knowledge on the death of Christ

When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Mark 2:17

Watch Mark Dice below expose America for it's true level of Biblical knowledge
about the death of Christ
www.youtube.com/embed/IyQ2JnCdSk4

Mark Dice does this about a lot of current political and past historical topics.

 

Those Open Doors

....and pray for us also,
that God may open to us a door for the word,
to declare the mystery of Christ,
Colossians 4:3 RSV

....for a wide door for effective work has opened to me,

and there are many adversaries.

1 Corinthians 16:9 ESV

Sea of Glass

Does the sea of glass before the throne of God represent the water of baptism before the judgment seat of God? Just kicking around some ideas.....

And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal:

and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne,

Revelation 4:6

 

24 Elders

Then the moon will be disgraced
And the sun ashamed;
For the LORD of hosts will reign
On Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
And before His elders, gloriously.
Isaiah 24:23 NKJV

And the four and twenty elders fell down

and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Revelation 5:14

Creation Moment 10/30/2013 - Faint Sun Paradox

"All living things on the earth ultimately obtain their energy from the sun, as do the wind and water

cycles. And nuclear reactions power the sun. In theory, as its nuclear fuel ‘burns’ up, the sun’s core should shrink, and this would make the reactions occur more readily. Therefore, the sun should shine more brightly as it ages.
But this means that if billions of years were true, the sun would have been much fainter in the past. However, there is no evidence that the sun was fainter at any time in the earth’s history. Astronomers call this the ‘faint young sun paradox’, but it is no paradox at all if the sun is only as old as the Bible says—about 6,000 years.
Evolutionists and long-agers believe that life appeared on the earth about 3.8 billion years ago. But if that timescale were true, the sun would be 25% brighter today than it was back then. This implies that the earth would have been frozen at an average temperature of –3ºC. However, most paleontologists believe that, if anything, the earth was warmer in the past. The only way around this is to make arbitrary and unrealistic assumptions of a far greater greenhouse effect at that time than exists today, with about 1,000 times more CO₂ in the atmosphere than there is today.
The scientific evidence is consistent with the sun having the age that we would expect from a straightforward reading of the Bible. In 6,000 years or so, there would have been no significant increase in energy output from the sun. It is a problem only for old-age ideas." CMI

And God made two great lights;

the greater light to rule the day,

Genesis 1:16

 

Slow Rise of the Little Horn - a little sideshow example

"By 1216, despite the fact that Erard rallied most of the local barons of the county against Blanche,

And out of one of them came forth a little horn,

which waxed exceeding great,

 toward the south, and toward the east,

 and toward the pleasant land.

Daniel 8:9

she had built up such strong alliances with both King Philip II as well as Pope Innocent III that Erard never gained any official legal support for his claims. From the start of the conflict, Pope Innocent III began excommunicating rebel barons, negatively affecting their efforts." wikipedia

Blanche of Navarre had married the son of the Duke of the county of Champagne in France. Her husband, Theobald III, died while preparing to leave for the 4th crusade. She was pregnant with his son, who would become Theobald IV.
Meanwhile, Philippa of Champagne had married a man who was the cousin of the King of Jerusalem. He encouraged her to wrestle control from Blanche.
So the question is--WHY did the "Church" take sides in an internal power struggle for earthly power & wealth to the point of excommunicating people? You really think either side was morally superior to the other?
Just a little example from the pages of history of the Little Horn meddling in politics.

P.S.-BTW, what became of Blanche? Well, her side went on to triumph. She died in 1229 of natural causes. And what became of Philippa who had grown up in the Holy Land? She died on 12/20/1250 (age 53).

Siberian Crossing Theory Shaken?

Where did the first Americans come from? Most researchers agree that Paleoamericans moved across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia sometime before 15,000 years ago, suggesting roots in East Asia. But just where the source populations arose has long been a mystery.

Now comes a surprising twist, from the complete nuclear genome of a Siberian boy who died 24,000 years ago—the oldest complete genome of a modern human sequenced to date. His DNA shows close ties to those of today's Native Americans. Yet he apparently descended not from East Asians, but from people who had lived in Europe or western Asia. The finding suggests that about a third of the ancestry of today's Native Americans can be traced to "western Eurasia," with the other two-thirds coming from eastern Asia, according to a talk at a meeting here by ancient DNA expert Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen. It also implies that traces of European ancestry previously detected in modern Native Americans do not come solely from mixing with European colonists, as most scientists had assumed, but have much deeper roots.

"I'm still processing that Native Americans are one-third European," says geneticist Connie Mulligan of the University of Florida in Gainesville. "It's jaw-dropping." At the very least, says geneticist Dennis O'Rourke of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, "this is going to stimulate a lot of discussion." Science

Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of

The Siberian Boy

all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Genesis 11:9

2 Muslim attacks on Christian Belief

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8

No. 1      Attack the validity of the Bible

This is expected.  If the Muslim can undermine the strength and integrity of God's word, then it would be much easier for him to win arguments, confound the Christian, and make converts of those who don't know the truth and power of the Bible. 

1) Stating that the Bible has numerous contradictions..... "biblical contradictions" raised by Muslims are nothing more than examples of their lack of understanding of biblical theology and context.  Always read the context of verses. 
2) Criticizing the lack of original manuscripts..... The point here is that because we do not have the original manuscripts of the Bible, we cannot really know what the originals said and, therefore, the Bible could have been corrupted. 
     a) The Bible documents are well attested as being reliable and accurate. In fact, we have around 24,000 ancient manuscripts of the New Testament. So much so, that no major area of Christian doctrine is affected by possible variations among manuscripts
     b) Regarding the Koran, Muhammad couldn't read or write, so he recited the Koran to people who then wrote it down.  There is no evidence at all that the Koran was written down in its entirety in Muhammad's lifetime and compiled as a unit.
     c) Shortly after Muhammad's death, the Muslim Uthman ordered all sets of the Koran manuscripts to be destroyed except the codex of Zaid. 
     d) Muslims claim that Allah said the Koran would be preserved.  But, using the Koran to substantiate the Koran which is circular reasoning.
3) Claiming that the Bible is false because it contradicts the Koran (Qur'an)...The Muslim assumes the validity of the Qur'an and because it contradicts the Bible, the Bible is wrong.  Well, the Christian can just as easily state that the Koran is wrong because it contradicts the Bible.  But the Muslims would not accept that.  Therefore, why should we accept their argument?

No. 2      Attempt to set Paul against Jesus

Muslims often make the claim that Paul never met Jesus and was not a disciple or apostle of Jesus.  Of course, this is not true.  Paul encountered Jesus on the road to Damascus in Acts 9, after Jesus' resurrection.  Jesus spoke to him and commissioned him.  So, Paul met Jesus.  Furthermore, Paul visited the Jerusalem apostles Peter, James, and John who affirmed Paul's mission and message.... Peter, who was a disciple of Jesus, personally authenticated Paul's writings by calling them scripture...But, two facts remain.  First, Jesus claimed to be God.  Second, the Pharisees denied that Jesus was God and the Muslims agree with them.

CARM
 

Creation Moment 10/29/2013 - Instant Galaxies

"Instant galaxies:  The farthest and oldest galaxy yet (700 million years after the Big Bang in the

secular cosmological view, or redshift 7.51) was already fully mature, creating stars hundreds of times faster than the Milky Way does (according to evolutionary dating), and is “richer in heavy elements” than expected – requiring multiple generations of stars to have formed, aged, and exploded.  This “exceptional” galaxy so near the beginning requires secular cosmologists to invent special conditions that are not acting today; yet mature galaxies would be expected from Genesis 1:1." CreationEvolutionHeadlines

 

 

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:1

IN the NEWS - Christ the Atheist? (So says Richard Dawkins)

"In a recent interview, Dawkins said, about faith and religion, “It’s infectious. It’s something that grips the mind in the same way that a conventional virus grips the body.”
When discussing Jesus Christ, he said:

“I wrote [an] article called ‘Atheists for Jesus,’ I think it was… Somebody gave me a t-shirt: ‘Atheists for Jesus.’ Well, the point was that Jesus was a great moral teacher and I was suggesting that somebody as intelligent as Jesus would have been an atheist if he had known what we know today.”

Clearly, Dawkins doesn’t believe that Jesus is God’s son — a central element of Christian theology.

In another intriguing statement, Dawkins did insinuate that there’s a slight possibility that God exists, but he said he views the likelihood with the same level of scrutiny that he would fairies and werewolves." The Blaze

 

Clearly Mr. Dawkins has no clue.....

After reading nearly a thousand pages of Dawkins (3 of his books) I've concluded that Dawkins is:

1) Simple Minded

2) Weak Minded

3) Feeble Minded

I have seen the foolish taking root,
But suddenly I cursed his dwelling place.

Job 5:3 NKJV

Counterfeit of True Righteousness by Faith

Lucifer has his Counterfeit of True Righteousness by Faith.

On one end, Righteousness, he has the misery of legalism.
On the other end, Faith, he has the shallowness of cheap grace.

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,

as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

1 Peter 5:8

 

 

Health Note - Those fattening salads?

"They're a great idea in theory -- a convenient way to pack a little more produce into your day -- but in practice, they often house loads of excess calories in the form of full-fat cheese, oil-soaked croutons, and generous pouches of creamy dressing, sometimes leaving you with a salad that has more calories than three Hershey's bars! The solution? Opt for kits without all those high-cal extras, or at least try to use only half of the fattening add-ons." YH

......for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Galatians 6:7

IN the NEWS - Polyamory: Can anyone say "Sodom"?... I knew U could

See what the gay marriage "debate" has opened the door to?

"As the concept of open relationships rises in pop culture and political debates, some polyamorous families like the Holders and Mullins see an opportunity to go public and fight stereotypes that polyamory is just swinging, cheating or kinky sex.

It's not just a fling or a phase for them. It's an identity. They want to show that polyamory can be a viable alternative to monogamy, even for middle-class, suburban families with children, jobs and house notes.

"We're not trying to say that monogamy is bad," said Billy Holder, a 36-year-old carpenter who works at a university in Atlanta. "We're trying to promote the fact that everyone has a right to develop a relationship structure that works for them."

For the Holder-Mullins triad, polyamory is three adults living in the same home about 20 miles south of Atlanta. They share bills, housework and childcare for their 9-year-old daughter. They work at the same place, sharing carpooling duties so someone can see their daughter off to school each day.

Surrounded at the parade by drag queens from El Gato Negro nightclub, singers from a gospel choir and supporters of the Libertarian Party of Georgia, Billy Holder didn't stand out.... The Holders and Mullins dealt with rejection from parents and one of Melissa Holder's sons when they revealed their relationship. They've also been the subject of a child welfare probe that ended in no charges being laid.

"We want to promote the idea that any relationship is valid as long as it is a choice made by consenting adults," he said. "In this regard, and as in most things, promoting public acceptance is the first step."

In panels with names like "Defining Our Relationships" and "The 5 Love Languages"  -- the discussions revolved around topics that often come up for monogamous couples: Communication, jealousy, time.

Wagner Illig, a self-appointed "poly educator" who gives talks at adult conventions about polyamory, began to identify as poly after her second divorce in the late 1990s. She decided there must be a better way than cheating to have multiple relationships.

Much has changed since then, she said. A generation that grew up amid rising rates of divorce and premarital cohabitation is more accepting of alternatives to monogamy. They grew up on the Internet and can turn on TV series like Showtime's "Polyamory: Married and Dating" and TLC's "Sister Wives," where they'll see alternatives to traditional monogamy

Wagner sees this year's U.S. Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage benefits as a sign that society is becoming more accepting of "other kinds of relationships," she said."

CNN

A naughty person, a wicked man,...Perversity is in his heart,

Proverbs 6:12,13 NKJV

 

P.S. - I didn't even know this show below existed

About the Series

"Season 2 of Polyamory: Married & Dating follows two polyamorous families living in Southern California. New to the show are Chris, his wife Leigh Ann and their girlfriend Megan, a threesome living in Hollywood. When Leigh Ann and Chris both fell in love with Megan, they suddenly found themselves in a polyamorous relationship. We also pick back up with our Season 1 San Diego family of Michael, Kamala, Jen and Tahl. This season takes viewers on an intense emotional journey as we follow two families as they navigate the ins and outs of polyamory.

Tahl, 34, is newly out as bisexual and has been married to Jen for 9 years. He recently finished his studies in oriental medicine and has become a licensed acupuncturist. He is struggling with the amount of time Jen spends with her boyfriend Jesse, and he is also ready to have a male connection of his own and find a boyfriend." ShowtimeWebsite

SDA Issues - La Sierra.....will they ever get it?

"We are rapidly nearing the final crisis in this world's history, and it is important that we understand that the educational advantages offered by our schools are not to be such as are offered by the schools of the world. Neither are we to follow the routine of worldly schools. The instruction given in Seventh-day Adventist schools is to be such as to lead to the practise of true humility. In speech, in dress, in diet, and in the influence exerted, is to be seen the simplicity of true godliness. 

This is what La Sierra is spending
precious Time & Resources on?

Our teachers need to understand the work that is to be done in these last days.
Our work of education is ever to bear the impress of the heavenly, and thus reveal the excellency of divine instruction above that of the learning of the world.
As wickedness in the world becomes more pronounced, and the teachings of evil are more fully developed and widely accepted, the teachings of Christ are to stand forth exemplified in the lives of converted men and women.
The Lord gave an important lesson to his people in all ages when to Moses on the mount he gave instruction regarding the building of the tabernacle. In that work he required perfection in every detail. Moses was proficient in all the learning of the Egyptians; he had a knowledge of God, and God's purposes had been revealed to him in visions; but he did not know how to engrave and embroider. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, See, I have called by name Bezaleel, the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah: and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, and in cutting of stones, to set them, and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship. And I, behold, I have given with him Aholiab the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan: and in the hearts of all that are wise-hearted I have put wisdom,... And the soul who accepts the virtues of Christ's character, and appropriates the merits of his life, is as precious in the sight of God as was his own beloved Son."
Exodus 31:2-6 / Review & Herald 1912 E.G.W.
 

Creation Moment 10/28/2013 - Frozen Accident Theory

"This theory states that the code is universal because at the present time any change wovld be lethal, or at least very strongly selected against.

 

This is because in all organisms (with the possible exception of certain virases) the code determines (by reading the mRNA) the amino acid sequences of so many highly evolved protein molecules that any change to these would be highly disadvantageous unless accompanied by many simultaneous mutations to correct the “mistakes” produced by altering the code.

This accounts for the fact that the code does not change.

 

To account for it being the same in all organisms one must assume that all life evolved from a single organism (more strictly, from a single closely interbreeding population).

 

In its extreme form, the theory implies that the allocation of codons to amino acids at this point was entirely a matter of “chance”." TheOriginOfTheGeneticCode

 

In other words, evolution can't really happen because it would trigger a cascade of changes that would in essence, destroy the whole genome. But because we are here--it must have somehow happened and therefore the mistake "froze" at the right moment and preserved it throughout time.....More NONSENSE from the world of evolution....BTW, the self proclaimed "sophisticated" Richard Dawkins finds this theory to be "interesting" on p.409 of his book the greatest show on earth....

Professing themselves to be wise,

they became fools,

Romans 1:22

The 3 Reasons

The 3 Reasons Christ came to earth:
1) To show us the Father
.....the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:10
2) To be our EXAMPLE
.....because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
1 Peter 2:21
3) To take our place

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isaiah 53:5

 

SDA Issues - Charismatic Poison: Mackin case study

"Ralph Mackin and his wife were a Seventh-day Adventist couple from Ohio, United States. They claimed to experience gifts of the Holy Spirit such as prophecy, speaking in tongues, and even casting out demons. They caused a stir at a local Adventist camp meeting, which was reported in the local newspaper. ...Ellen G. White,...was initially cautious regarding their experiences, and later came out opposed to them. After leading some meetings at an Adventist church for a time, they pass from prominence in the church.

On November 12, 1908 Ralph Mackin and his wife from Ohio visited Ellen White...  Nearly three years earlier their Findlay, Ohio church sought "the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.".....in the form of speaking in tongues.
A "little girl ten or eleven years old" told them "through the Spirit of prophecy", "You go to Toledo". They were also told imprisonment would ensue there. In Toledo a Polish Catholic heard Mrs. Mackin in his own tongue. When the Mackins returned to Clyde they were arrested for mesmerism.
They caused a stir at the Adventist camp meeting in Mansfield, Ohio, which resulted in the arrests of the Mackins, plus their daughter, Ralph's mother, and "Sister Edwards". They believed the Spirit had told Mrs. Mackin to go to the campground and sing, "only as she prays in the Spirit and special power comes upon her." However they were arrested for disturbance. In court, one witness testified, "I never heard such singing in my life. It just thrilled me through and through." Supporters had stated, "It is when the singing is extemporaneous – dictated by the Spirit – that it is the most wonderful." (They also claimed the gift of tongues, with Ralph speaking Chinese and his wife Yiddish as the result of a vision;)
 Mackins went to San Jose. Ralph was invited to preach at the church there, and meetings continued for several days until the pastor returned and stopped them, following which Ralph continued to hold meetings in supporters' homes." Wikipedia


"THE CONVERSATION WITH THE MACKINS WAS TAKEN DOWN STENOGRAPHICALLY AT THE TIME OF THE INTERVIEW BY CLARENCE C. CRISLER, ELLEN G. WHITE'S LEADING SECRETARY.-- COMPILERS.

RALPH MACKIN: IN THE WEEK OF PRAYER READING FOR THAT YEAR, EVERY ARTICLE WAS DIRECTED TO THE PEOPLE TO SEEK FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT. WE SET ASIDE IN OUR LITTLE CHURCH THREE DAYS FOR FASTING AND PRAYER, AND WE FASTED AND PRAYED FOR THREE DAYS-- WE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS RECORDED HERE IN ACTS 2 IN REGARD TO THE APOSTLES. WHEN THAT PROMISED POWER CAME UPON US WE SPAKE IN OTHER TONGUES AS THE SPIRIT GAVE US UTTERANCE.

MRS. MACKIN: THE LORD PUT THIS BURDEN UPON ME. I COULD NOT STAND IT. I WANTED TO TELL IT SO BAD, AND SING THAT SONG SO BAD. AND I COULD NOT GET RID OF IT TILL I WOULD DO IT. "OH, PRAY," SAYS I TO SISTER EDWARDS; AND SO I STOOD ON THE CAMPGROUND, AND I SANG JUST WHAT THE LORD GAVE ME. THE LORD--THIS IS WHAT I SANG:--

MRS. MACKIN: OUR BRETHREN CERTAINLY THINK THAT WE ARE IN A DELUSION.

Ellen G. White: What place was this that you speak of, where this singing was?

R. MACKIN: MANSFIELD, OHIO, AT THE CAMP MEETING.

CASTING OUT DEMONS.--R. MACKIN: THE LORD HAS GIVEN US POWER, SISTER WHITE, TO CAST OUT DEMONS. MANY PEOPLE ARE POSSESSED WITH DEMONS.
WHEN WE BEGIN TO REBUKE THESE DEMONS THEY OFTENTIMES CLOSE THE EYES OF THESE PEOPLE, AND WILL SOMETIMES CAUSE THEM TO BARK LIKE A DOG, AND STICK OUT THEIR TONGUE; BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO REBUKE THEM, WHY, THE EYES OPEN AND THEY BECOME CALM,...

ELLEN WHITE RECOUNTS EARLY EXPERIENCES.--SISTER WHITE THEN BEGAN TALKING, AND CONTINUED FOR ABOUT HALF AN HOUR. SHE TOLD ....OF .....HER EXPERIENCES WITH UNUSUAL FORMS OF ERROR IN THOSE DAYS IN LATER YEARS LED HER TO BE FEARFUL OF ANYTHING SAVORING OF A SPIRIT OF FANATICISM. SHE TOLD OF SOME WHO HAD STRANGE EXERCISINGS OF THE BODY AND OF OTHERS WHO WERE GOVERNED LARGELY BY THEIR OWN IMPRESSIONS. SOME THOUGHT IT WRONG TO WORK. STILL OTHERS BELIEVED THAT THE RIGHTEOUS DEAD HAD BEEN RAISED TO ETERNAL LIFE. A FEW SOUGHT TO CULTIVATE A SPIRIT OF HUMILITY BY CREEPING ON THE FLOOR, LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN. SOME WOULD DANCE, AND SING "GLORY, GLORY, GLORY, GLORY, GLORY, GLORY," OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SOMETIMES A PERSON WOULD JUMP UP AND DOWN ON THE FLOOR, WITH HANDS UPLIFTED, PRAISING GOD; AND THIS WOULD BE KEPT UP FOR AS LONG AS HALF AN HOUR AT A TIME.

R. MACKIN: BUT YOU DO NOT SAY THAT THAT APPLIES TO OUR CASE NOW, UNTIL YOU HAVE FURTHER LIGHT ON IT?

Ellen G. White: I could not say; but it appears to be along that line, as I am afraid of it. It appears to be along that line that I have met again and again.

Ellen G. White (rising, and shaking hands): I want the Spirit of the Lord to be with you, and you, and me. We are to be just like God's little children. The power of His grace must not be misunderstood. We must have it in all meekness and humility and lowliness of mind, that God may make the impression Himself upon the minds of the people. I hope the Lord will bless you and give you a solid foundation, which foundation is the Word of the living God.--

The Lord Did Give Light

Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Mackin:

Dear Brother and Sister:

Your wife, in speech, in song, and in strange exhibitions that are not in accordance with the genuine work of the Holy Spirit, is helping to bring in a phase of fanaticism that would do great injury to the cause of God, if allowed any place in our churches.
On Casting Out Demons.--You have even supposed that power is given you to cast out devils. Through your influence over the human mind men and women are led to believe that they are possessed of devils, and that the Lord has appointed you as His agents for casting out these evil spirits.....Call a Halt.--My brother and sister, I have a message for you: you are starting on a false supposition. There is much of self woven into your exhibitions. Satan will come in with bewitching power, through these exhibitions. It is high time that you call a halt. If God had given you a special message for His people, you would walk and work in all humility--not as if you were on the stage of a theater, but in the meekness of a follower of the lowly Jesus of Nazareth.

I was shown that it was not the Spirit of the Lord that was inspiring Brother and Sister Mackin, but the same spirit of fanaticism that is ever seeking entrance into the remnant church. Their application of Scripture to their peculiar exercises is Scripture misapplied. The work of declaring persons possessed of the devil, and then praying with them and pretending to cast out the evil spirits, is fanaticism which will bring into disrepute any church which sanctions such work.

I was shown that we must give no encouragement to these demonstrations, but must guard the people with a decided testimony against that which would bring a stain upon the name of Seventh-day Adventists, and destroy the confidence of the people in the message of truth which they must bear to the world." Selected Messages vol. 3, ch.54 p.362-380 E.G.W.

"THE visit of Ralph Mackin and his wife with Ellen G. White occupied the last half of Thursday morning, November 12, 1908. Plans were that Ellen White with three members of her home and office family should drive on Friday by team the 35 miles to Healdsburg for services on Sabbath and Sunday. The interview over, her mind turned to the work of the weekend. Then there was a trip the next week to Berkeley with several meetings over that weekend.

To Elder A. G. Daniells, president of the General Conference, W. C. White wrote on that Thursday afternoon after the interview:

"This forenoon Mother and I and Brother Crisler spent a couple of hours in an interview with Brother and Sister Mackin of Findlay, Ohio. They came across the continent, they say, to see Mother. I had an interview with them in my office yesterday morning and advised them to come down this morning to see Mother. They seem to be very nice-spirited people, but their experience is somewhat peculiar." - November 12, 1908.

On that Friday the Mackins went to San Jose,...Trouble soon began to brew in San Jose. Inquiries regarding the interview began to come to the staff at Elmshaven.
November 26, two weeks after the interview, Ellen White wrote to S. N. Haskell, president of the California Conference:

"Dear Brother: Two weeks ago today, while I was writing, my son W. C. White came into my room and stated that there were two persons below who wished to speak with me. I went downstairs into our sitting room and there met a man and his wife who claim to follow the Word of God and to believe the Testimonies. They have had an unusual experience during the past two or three years. They seemed to be honest-hearted people. "In this stage of our history we must be very careful to guard against everything that savors of fanaticism and disorder. We must guard against all peculiar exercises that would be likely to stir up the minds of unbelievers, and lead them to think that as a people we are led by impulse, and delight in noise and confusion accompanied by eccentricities of action. In the last days the enemy of present truth will bring in manifestations that are not in harmony with the workings of the Spirit, but are calculated to lead astray those who stand ready to take up with something new and strange."

 

White Estate has received information from Mrs. Irene Moon-Winn, who resided in San Jose at the time, as to how Ralph Mackin gained access to the San Jose church.

Elder D. T. Fero, the pastor, had to be away on Sabbath, November 14, and he arranged for one of the members to take the service. On Sabbath morning as our brother who was to speak entered the church he met a gentleman who had a Bible, a Christ in Song and a volume of the Testimonies and gave his name as Ralph Mackin.

"Are you a preacher?" he was asked.

"Oh yes," was the reply." I have just come from Battle Creek." How fortunate, it seemed, that a minister from the East was in their midst and he was invited to preach.

In his sermon Mackin told the congregation that he had just visited Sister White at St. Helena and that his wife had had a vision there. He reported that Sister White was in full harmony with them, told them that theirs was a good work, and wished them God's blessing. During the sermon he suggested that if any of the congregation would like to have a special prayer meeting after church he would be glad to join them. Some people stayed, and they had a little prayer meeting.

When members who had gone home returned at three o'clock for the young people's meeting, they were surprised to find the meeting under Mr. Mackin's leadership still in progress. Some of the people were singing, some were praying, some were crying. Mackin announced there would be a prayer meeting at the church that night. Quite a crowd turned out, and he continued every night until Wednesday when Elder Fero returned, discovered the situation, and terminated Mackin's meetings in the church.

Mrs. Winn reports that the people "seemed to think that this was an outpouring of the Holy Spirit." For a period of time Mackin conducted meetings in the homes of sympathizers." Charismatic Experiences in Early SDA History A.L.White 

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you,
Galatians 3:1

For another attempt at the charismatic poison attempting to enter the SDA Church see:
http://master1844-dc.blogspot.com/2012/11/holy-flesh-movement-that-swept-sdas-in.html

Creation Moment 10/27/2013 - Divine Proportion (Fibonacci Number)

SHATTERING Evolution to it's core

"In God's creation, there exists a "Divine Proportion" that is exhibited in a multitude of shapes, numbers, and patterns whose relationship can only be the result of the omnipotent, good, and all-wise God of Scripture. This Divine Proportion—existing in the smallest to the largest parts, in living and also in non-living things—reveals the awesome handiwork of God and His interest in beauty, function, and order.

Let's begin with a shape with which we are all familiar. It is the spiral commonly seen in shells. By taking a careful look at that spiral (the chambered nautilus is probably the clearest example) you will observe that as it gets larger, it retains its identical form. Since the body of the organism grows in the path of a spiral that is equiangular and logarithmic, its form never changes. The beauty of this form is commonly called the "golden spiral."
This spiral is visible in things as diverse as: hurricanes, spiral seeds, the cochlea of the human ear, ram's horn, sea-horse tail, growing fern leaves, DNA molecule, waves breaking on the beach, tornados, galaxies, the tail of a comet as it winds around the sun, whirlpools, seed patterns of sunflowers, daisies, dandelions, and in the construction of the ears of most mammals.

This spiral follows a precise mathematical pattern. We will first look at this spiral in sunflowers. By

looking carefully at a sunflower you will observe two sets of spirals (rows of seeds or florets) spiraling in opposite directions. When these spiral rows are counted in each direction, you will discover that in the overwhelming majority of the cases that their numbers, depending upon the size of the flower, will be of the following ratio:

 

if small, 34 and 55; if medium 55 and 89; if large 89 and 144

These numbers are part of the Fibonacci numbering sequence, a pattern discovered around A.D. 1200

by Leonardo Pisa (historically known as Fibonacci). Each succeeding number is the sum of the two preceding numbers. The sequence of these numbers is 1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233, ad infinitum. This numbering pattern reveals itself in various ways throughout all of nature...

Why did Phideas, the Greek sculptor, and others in ancient Greece and Egypt often use this ratio in designing many of their works of art? Because this ratio has been found to be remarkably pleasing to the human eye, it produces what is called a Golden Rectangle. If the short side of the rectangle is 1, the long side will be 1.618.

Another area of great interest is the occurrence of Fibonacci numbers in the spiral arrangement of leaves around a plant's stem (called phyllotaxis). This spiral pattern is observed by viewing the stem from directly above, and noting the arc of the stem form one leaf base to the next, and the fraction of the stem circumference which is inscribed. In each case the numbers are Fibonacci numbers. Examples: In an elm the arc is 1/2 the circumference; in beech and hazel, 1/3; apricot, oak, 2/5; in pear and poplar, 3/8; in almond, 5/13; and in some pines either 5/21 or 13/34. Why did God arrange them this way? This pattern assures that each leaf will receive its maximum exposure to sunlight and air without shading or crowding other leaves.

When we realize that the information to produce these spirals and numbers in living things is stored in the DNA, should we then be surprised to find that the DNA molecule is 21 angstroms in width and the length of one full turn in its spiral is 34 angstroms, both Fibonacci numbers? The DNA molecule is literally one long stack of golden rectangles.

Let's look into the area of very small and very large things. In the world of atoms there are four fundamental asymmetries-
1- structure of atomic nuclei,
2- distribution of fission fragments,
3- distribution of numbers of isotopes,
4- and the distribution of emitted particles,
and it is significant that "the numerical values of all of these asymmetries are equal approximately to the `golden ratio,' and that the number forming these values are sometimes Fibonacci or `near' Fibonacci numbers." In changing states of a quantity of hydrogen atoms, as the atoms gain and lose radiant energy at succeeding energy levels, the changing proportion of the histories of the atomic electrons form Fibonacci numbers.

In the area of very large phenomena when the time period of each planet's revolution around the sun is compared in round numbers to the one adjacent to it, their fractions are Fibonacci numbers! Beginning with Neptune and moving inward toward the sun, the ratios are 1/2, 1/3, 2/5, 3/8, 5/13, 8/21, 13/34. These are the same as the spiral arrangement of leaves on plants!

A most interesting divergence in the chart is that of the Earth. As the next planet in the series after Mars, its number should be 8:21, but it isn't. This number "skips" over Earth and connects to Venus. Even with this divergence we find that the Earth's period compared to Mars and Venus are Fibonacci numbers (8/13, 13/21). It is my opinion that this anomaly is evidence of God's showing the uniqueness of planet Earth in relationship to the whole cosmos. It also accomplishes another fact, for this "anomaly" shatters the big bang and nebular hypothesis, for if all the planets formed from a whirling cloud of dust and atoms, this feature would not be present. To think that the times of revolution of the planets around the sun correlates with the arrangement of leaves around stems on plants is also an amazing phenomena." ICR

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:

for thou hast created all things,

and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Revelation 4:11

 

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