The Neo-Charismatics seem to be self styled "New Mystics". Many of these evangelists have small
followings from what seems to be non-denominational charismatic churches and a few followers in organized charismatic churches (Pentecostal, Assemblies of God, etc.).
It seems what they crave is TV appearances for exposure. One place they like to go is on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural.
And they love to talk about astral type of out-of-body experiences as well as miracles.
They are sometimes shunned by mainstream charismatics and especially by many traditional Christians. Although they may find some sympathy among the emergent church types.
They also seem, at least in some cases, to differ on eschatology (end time events) with their Pentecostal brethren. It appears that many of the big charismatic TV evangelists have adopted the millennial view of the "secret rapture." This is what separated the Assemblies of God (secret rapture known as dispensational pre-millennialism) from the Pentecostals (Post millennial) initially. But over the years the Pentecostals have also been going the rout of the secret rapture crowd in eschatology. But these new mystics seem to be a throw back to post millennialism, at least dominance post millennialism. (Post millennialism is the idea that the millennium happens BEFORE the 2nd Advent of Christ, a thousand years of peace & love breaks out on earth after the last person is converted. Dominance post Millennialism has the twist to it of, rather than the millennium beginning with the conversion of the last person-it begins with the day that all GOVERNMENT leaders become Christian worldwide.)
One other point-these new mystics have about 4 big names. John Paul Jackson (Who I watched claim that God appeared to him in a vision on a throne in his house and told him to prepare the world for the rapture and to preach the "prosperity gospel".....The fact that Mr. Jackson seems to accept the secret rapture view could explain his acceptance on mainstream Christian TV). He also seems to be taken serious by the Day Star TV network and Joni Lamb.
Another is Rick Joyner who spends a lot of time being interviewed on Christian TV and especially the Jim Bakker Show.
Another was Bob Jones, now discredited leader of the Kansas City Prophets of the late 80's & early 90's. These charismatics were considered extreme by major charismatic denominations. But they were eventually given "spiritual cover" when the late John Wimber allowed them to semi-merge with his Vineyard Churches.
Mr. jones claimed that one day his angel visitor, Dominus, who he claimed was Christ Himself, sat with him on rocking chairs over the church and the two of them held hands in an out-of-body experience.
Mr. Jones also pioneered the Shepherd's Rod Theology of the Kansas City Prophets. This doctrine claimed that once a year, on the day of atonement, the flock was to pass under the rod of Mr. Jones and he could tell if they had sin in their life. He claimed that God wanted him to check for blemishes of sin on the flock.
Mr. Jones also used his "White Horse" revelations to keep people from questioning. He claimed many of his sayings were uttered to him in visions or dreams by the mouth of a white horse. When he claimed the mouth of the white horse had spoken--people listened.
Mr. Jones took a bit of a dip from grace among his brethren when it was learned he was having affairs with men. The first clue they had a perv in the pulpit should have been when Bob Jones was known for having women strip naked before him to receive a "prophecy"-although he claims he never touched them.....
And finally Paul Cain, who was dis-fellowshipped a few years ago for having affairs with men and being an alcoholic to the point of falling down at public events. Mr. Cain is considered a living legend among these groups as a clairvoyant and "prophet" of the 50's "latter rain" movement. Although speculation swirls that the ones who went public with his sins, were those who want to take his seat of glory among the movement, and Rick Joyner was one of them who was instrumental in going public with the sins of Mr. Cain.
The reason for the gay encounters of Mr. Cain have been blamed by some on Christ--for it was Christ who supposedly appeared in the front seat of his car while driving to San Francisco to see the girl he planned to marry. Christ supposedly told him to remain celibate. -- (LOL-people actually believe this in his defense...). Also, he prophesied (falsely) that President Bill Clinton would lead a spiritual revival in America. This could be due in part to the possible dominance post millennial views of many neo-charismatics.
Paul Cain was also a proponent of the Manifest Sons Of God doctrine-which was deemed heresy by the Assemblies of God. The doctrine is as follows; "The teaching that in the last days, a "new breed" of Christians will arise - the "Manifest Sons of God" - who will have super-natural spiritual power and be instrumental in subduing the earth. This movement is also referred to as "Joel's Army."
'Subduing the earth' means that a militant church (Joel's Army) will arise, take over and rule the world politically and spiritually.
It is claimed that the 'Manifest Sons of God' will be perfected into their "glorified bodies" prior to Christ's return. That perfection will allow them to subdue the earth for Jesus. Proponents of this doctrine also claim Christians, having a "divine nature," become "gods." They say Christ came into us as a "seed" and grows into a "prophet." Thus Christ does not physically return, but returns within us." ApologeticsIndex
A 1999 major offshoot that survives from the Kansas City Prophets is IHOP (International House of Prayer and also intercession, holiness, offerings and prophetic). It is led by a major leader of the KCP, Mike Bickle. It is based around Kansas City, Missouri.
They also have a 24/7 ministry of rock-style music & prayer vigils. They have what they call the Tabernacle of David.
One major crossover, which has gained prominence on major Christian TV networks in the U.S., is out of Australia. The Hillsong Church led by New Zealander Brian Houston. They appear to be the first major group to straddle the line between traditional, main-stream charismatics & the neo-charismatic movement.
* Definitions: Some define neo-charismatics separate from new-mystics, with the new-mystics being a sub group of neo-charismatics. In this case the neo-charismatics would be more along the lines of the non-denominational mega-churches bridging the gap between charismatic & evangelical. HillSong Church is closer to this than the new-mystics side. Whereas IHOP leans more towards the new-mystics side.
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| Sid Roth It's Supernatural Promoting the New Mysticism |
It seems what they crave is TV appearances for exposure. One place they like to go is on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural.
And they love to talk about astral type of out-of-body experiences as well as miracles.
They are sometimes shunned by mainstream charismatics and especially by many traditional Christians. Although they may find some sympathy among the emergent church types.
They also seem, at least in some cases, to differ on eschatology (end time events) with their Pentecostal brethren. It appears that many of the big charismatic TV evangelists have adopted the millennial view of the "secret rapture." This is what separated the Assemblies of God (secret rapture known as dispensational pre-millennialism) from the Pentecostals (Post millennial) initially. But over the years the Pentecostals have also been going the rout of the secret rapture crowd in eschatology. But these new mystics seem to be a throw back to post millennialism, at least dominance post millennialism. (Post millennialism is the idea that the millennium happens BEFORE the 2nd Advent of Christ, a thousand years of peace & love breaks out on earth after the last person is converted. Dominance post Millennialism has the twist to it of, rather than the millennium beginning with the conversion of the last person-it begins with the day that all GOVERNMENT leaders become Christian worldwide.)
One other point-these new mystics have about 4 big names. John Paul Jackson (Who I watched claim that God appeared to him in a vision on a throne in his house and told him to prepare the world for the rapture and to preach the "prosperity gospel".....The fact that Mr. Jackson seems to accept the secret rapture view could explain his acceptance on mainstream Christian TV). He also seems to be taken serious by the Day Star TV network and Joni Lamb.
Another is Rick Joyner who spends a lot of time being interviewed on Christian TV and especially the Jim Bakker Show.
Another was Bob Jones, now discredited leader of the Kansas City Prophets of the late 80's & early 90's. These charismatics were considered extreme by major charismatic denominations. But they were eventually given "spiritual cover" when the late John Wimber allowed them to semi-merge with his Vineyard Churches.
Mr. jones claimed that one day his angel visitor, Dominus, who he claimed was Christ Himself, sat with him on rocking chairs over the church and the two of them held hands in an out-of-body experience.
Mr. Jones also pioneered the Shepherd's Rod Theology of the Kansas City Prophets. This doctrine claimed that once a year, on the day of atonement, the flock was to pass under the rod of Mr. Jones and he could tell if they had sin in their life. He claimed that God wanted him to check for blemishes of sin on the flock.
Mr. Jones also used his "White Horse" revelations to keep people from questioning. He claimed many of his sayings were uttered to him in visions or dreams by the mouth of a white horse. When he claimed the mouth of the white horse had spoken--people listened.
Mr. Jones took a bit of a dip from grace among his brethren when it was learned he was having affairs with men. The first clue they had a perv in the pulpit should have been when Bob Jones was known for having women strip naked before him to receive a "prophecy"-although he claims he never touched them.....
And finally Paul Cain, who was dis-fellowshipped a few years ago for having affairs with men and being an alcoholic to the point of falling down at public events. Mr. Cain is considered a living legend among these groups as a clairvoyant and "prophet" of the 50's "latter rain" movement. Although speculation swirls that the ones who went public with his sins, were those who want to take his seat of glory among the movement, and Rick Joyner was one of them who was instrumental in going public with the sins of Mr. Cain.
The reason for the gay encounters of Mr. Cain have been blamed by some on Christ--for it was Christ who supposedly appeared in the front seat of his car while driving to San Francisco to see the girl he planned to marry. Christ supposedly told him to remain celibate. -- (LOL-people actually believe this in his defense...). Also, he prophesied (falsely) that President Bill Clinton would lead a spiritual revival in America. This could be due in part to the possible dominance post millennial views of many neo-charismatics.
Paul Cain was also a proponent of the Manifest Sons Of God doctrine-which was deemed heresy by the Assemblies of God. The doctrine is as follows; "The teaching that in the last days, a "new breed" of Christians will arise - the "Manifest Sons of God" - who will have super-natural spiritual power and be instrumental in subduing the earth. This movement is also referred to as "Joel's Army."
'Subduing the earth' means that a militant church (Joel's Army) will arise, take over and rule the world politically and spiritually.
It is claimed that the 'Manifest Sons of God' will be perfected into their "glorified bodies" prior to Christ's return. That perfection will allow them to subdue the earth for Jesus. Proponents of this doctrine also claim Christians, having a "divine nature," become "gods." They say Christ came into us as a "seed" and grows into a "prophet." Thus Christ does not physically return, but returns within us." ApologeticsIndex
A 1999 major offshoot that survives from the Kansas City Prophets is IHOP (International House of Prayer and also intercession, holiness, offerings and prophetic). It is led by a major leader of the KCP, Mike Bickle. It is based around Kansas City, Missouri.
They also have a 24/7 ministry of rock-style music & prayer vigils. They have what they call the Tabernacle of David.
One major crossover, which has gained prominence on major Christian TV networks in the U.S., is out of Australia. The Hillsong Church led by New Zealander Brian Houston. They appear to be the first major group to straddle the line between traditional, main-stream charismatics & the neo-charismatic movement.
* Definitions: Some define neo-charismatics separate from new-mystics, with the new-mystics being a sub group of neo-charismatics. In this case the neo-charismatics would be more along the lines of the non-denominational mega-churches bridging the gap between charismatic & evangelical. HillSong Church is closer to this than the new-mystics side. Whereas IHOP leans more towards the new-mystics side.
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| The bewitching of Protestantism by Pentecostalism |
O foolish Galatians,
who hath bewitched you,
that ye should not obey the truth,
before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth,
crucified among you?
Galatians 3:1